Ed Roberts (computer engineer)

Ed Roberts

Ed Roberts in 2002
Born Henry Edward Roberts
(1941-09-13)September 13, 1941
Miami, Florida, United States
Died April 1, 2010(2010-04-01) (aged 68)
Cochran, Georgia, United States
Nationality American
Education University of Miami
Oklahoma State University
Mercer University
Occupation Electrical engineer
Businessman
Entrepreneur
Farmer
Medical doctor
Known for Personal computer
Spouse(s) Joan Clark (m. 1962–88)
Donna Mauldin (m. 1991–99)
Rosa Cooper (m. 2000–10)
Children 6

Henry Edward "Ed" Roberts (September 13, 1941 – April 1, 2010) was an American engineer, entrepreneur and medical doctor who invented the first commercially successful personal computer in 1975.[1] He is most often known as "the father of the personal computer".[2] He founded Micro Instrumentation and Telemetry Systems (MITS) in 1970 to sell electronics kits to model rocketry hobbyists, but the first successful product was an electronic calculator kit that was featured on the cover of the November 1971 issue of Popular Electronics.[3] The calculators were very successful and sales topped one million dollars in 1973.[4] A brutal calculator price war left the company deeply in debt by 1974. Roberts then developed the Altair 8800 personal computer that used the new Intel 8080 microprocessor. This was featured on the cover of the January 1975 issue of Popular Electronics, and hobbyists flooded MITS with orders for this $397 computer kit.

Bill Gates and Paul Allen joined MITS to develop software and Altair BASIC was Microsoft's first product. Roberts sold MITS in 1977 and retired to Georgia where he farmed, studied medicine and eventually became a small-town doctor living in Cochran, Georgia.

Early life

Ed Roberts was born on September 13, 1941 in Miami, Florida to Henry Melvin Roberts, an appliance repairman, and Edna Wilcher Roberts, a homemaker. His younger sister Cheryl was born in 1947. During World War II, while his father was in the Army, Roberts and his mother lived on the Wilcher family farm in Wheeler County, Georgia. After the war, the family returned to Miami, but Roberts would spend his summers with his grandparents in rural Georgia. Roberts' father had an appliance repair business in Miami.[5][6]

Roberts became interested in electronics and built a small relay-based computer while in high school. Medicine was his true passion, however, and he entered University of Miami with the intention of becoming a doctor, the first in his family to attend college. There he met a neurosurgeon who shared his interest in electronics. The doctor suggested that Roberts get an engineering degree before applying to medical school, and Roberts changed his major to electrical engineering.[6][7]

Roberts married Joan Clark while at the university, and when she became pregnant Roberts knew that he would have to drop out of school to support his new family. The U.S. Air Force had a program that would pay for college, and in May 1962 he enlisted with the hope of finishing his degree through the Airman Education & Commissioning Program.[6][8]

After basic training, Roberts attended the Cryptographic Equipment Maintenance School at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas. Because of his electrical engineering studies at college, Roberts was made an instructor at the Cryptographic School when he finished the course. To augment his meager enlisted man's pay, Roberts worked on several off-duty projects and even set up a one-man company, Reliance Engineering. The most notable job was to create the electronics that animated the Christmas characters in the window display of Joske's department store in San Antonio. In 1965, he was selected for an Air Force program to complete his college degree and become a commissioned officer. Roberts earned an electrical engineering degree from Oklahoma State University in 1968 and was assigned to the Laser Division of the Weapons Laboratory at Kirtland AFB in Albuquerque, New Mexico.[6][9] In 1968, he looked into applying to medical school but learned that, at age 27, he was considered too old.[6]

Micro Instrumentation and Telemetry Systems

March 1970 advertisement, when MITS was located in Ed Roberts' garage.

Roberts worked with Forrest Mims at the Weapons Laboratory, and both shared an interest in model rocketry. Mims was an advisor to the Albuquerque Model Rocket Club and met the publisher of Model Rocketry magazine at a rocketry conference. This led to an article in the September 1969 issue of Model Rocketry, "Transistorized Tracking Light for Night Launched Model Rockets".[10] Roberts, Mims, and lab coworkers Stan Cagle and Bob Zaller decided that they could design and sell electronics kits to model rocket hobbyists.[11] Roberts wanted to call the new company Reliance Engineering, but Mims wanted to form an acronym similar to the Massachusetts Institute of Technology's MIT. Cagle came up with Micro Instrumentation and Telemetry Systems (MITS).[12] They advertised the light flasher, a roll rate sensor with transmitter, and other kits in Model Rocketry, but the sales were disappointing.

Mims wrote an article about the new technology of light-emitting diodes that was to be published in the November 1970 issue of Popular Electronics magazine. He asked the editors if they also wanted a project story, and they agreed. Roberts and Mims developed an LED communicator that would transmit voice on an infrared beam of light to a receiver hundreds of feet away. Readers could buy a kit of parts to build the Opticom LED Communicator from MITS for $15.[13] MITS sold just over a hundred kits. Mims was now out of the Air Force and wanted to pursue a career as a technology writer. Roberts bought out his original partners and focused the company on the emerging market of electronic calculators.[14]

Calculators

June 1972 advertisement for MITS Model 1440 Calculator

Ed Roberts's first real experience with computers came while at Oklahoma State University where engineering students had free access to an IBM 1620 computer.[15] His office at the Weapons Laboratory had the state of the art Hewlett-Packard 9100A programmable calculator in 1968. Roberts had always wanted to build a digital computer and, in July 1970, Electronic Arrays announced a set of six LSI integrated circuits that would make a four-function calculator.[16][17] Roberts was determined to design a calculator kit and got fellow Weapons Laboratory officers William Yates and Ed Laughlin to invest in the project with time and money.[18]

The first product was a "four-function" calculator that could add, subtract, multiply, and divide. The display was only eight digits, but the calculations were performed with 16 digits precision. The MITS Model 816 calculator kit was featured on the November 1971 cover of Popular Electronics.[3] The kit sold for $179 and an assembled unit was $275. Unlike the previous kits that MITS had offered, thousands of calculator orders came in each month.[19]

The monthly sales reached $100,000 in March 1973, and MITS moved to a larger building with 10,000 square feet (930 square meters) of space.[4] In 1973, MITS was selling every calculator that they could make, and 110 employees worked in two shifts assembling them.[20] The functionality of calculator integrated circuits increased at a rapid pace and Roberts was designing and producing new models. The popularity of electronic calculators drew the traditional office equipment companies and the semiconductor companies into the market. In September 1972, Texas Instruments (TI) introduced the TI-2500 portable four-function calculator that sold for $120.[21] The larger companies could sell below cost to win market share. By early 1974, Ed Roberts found that he could purchase a calculator in a retail store for less than his cost of materials. MITS was now $300,000 in debt, and Roberts was looking for a new hit product.[22]

Altair 8800 computer

Main article: Altair 8800
May 1975 advertisement for the Altair 8800 computer kit

Roberts decided to return to the kit market with a low cost computer. The target customer would think that "some assembly required" was a desirable feature. In April 1974, Intel released the 8080 microprocessor that Roberts felt was powerful enough for his computer kit, but each 8080 chip sold for $360 in small quantities.[23] Roberts felt that the price of a computer kit had to be under $400; to meet this price, he agreed to order 1,000 microprocessors from Intel for $75 each.[24] Roberts did the circuit design, and Bill Yates did the circuit board layout. The company was down to 20 employees and a bank loan for $65,000 financed the design and initial production of the new computer. Roberts told the bank that he expected to sell 800 computers, but he guessed that it would be around 200.[25]

Art Salsberg, editorial director of Popular Electronics, was looking for a computer construction project, and his technical editor Les Solomon knew that MITS was working on an Intel 8080-based computer kit. Roberts assured Solomon that the project would be complete by November to meet the press deadline for the January 1975 issue. The first prototype was finished in October and shipped to Popular Electronics in New York for the cover photograph, but it was lost in transit. Solomon already had a number of pictures of the machine, and the article was based on them. Roberts and Yates got to work on building a replacement. The computer on the magazine cover was an empty box with just switches and LEDs on the front panel. The finished Altair computer had a completely different circuit board layout than the prototype shown in the magazine.[26]

Altair 8800 Computer with 8-inch floppy disk system

MITS products typically had generic names such as the Model 1440 Calculator or the Model 1600 Digital Voltmeter. The editors of Popular Electronics wanted a more alluring name for the computer. MITS technical writer David Bunnell came up with three pages of possible names, but Roberts was too busy finishing the computer design to choose one. There are several versions of the story of who selected Altair as the computer name. At the first Altair Computer Convention (March 1976), Les Solomon told the audience that the name was inspired by his 12-year-old daughter Lauren. "She said why don't you call it Altair – that's where the [Star Trek] Enterprise is going tonight."[6][27] The December 1976 issue of Popular Science misquoted this account, giving credit to Ed Roberts' daughter.[28] His only daughter Dawn was not born until 1983.[1] Both of these versions have appeared in many books, magazines, and web sites.

Editor Alexander Burawa recalls a less dramatic version. The Altair was originally going to be named the PE-8 (Popular Electronics 8-bit), but Les Solomon thought this name to be rather dull, so Solomon, Burawa, and John McVeigh decided that: "It's a stellar event, so let's name it after a star." McVeigh suggested "Altair", the twelfth-brightest star in the sky.[29][30]

When the January 1975 issue of Popular Electronics reached readers in mid-December 1974, MITS was flooded with orders.[31] They had to hire extra people just to answer the phones. In February, MITS received 1,000 orders for the Altair 8800. The quoted delivery time was 60 days, but it was many more months before the machines were shipped. By August 1975, they had shipped over 5,000 computers.[32]

The Altair 8800 computer was a break-even sale for MITS. They needed to sell additional memory boards, I/O boards, and other options to make a profit. The April 1975 issue of the MITS newsletter Computer Notes had a page-long price list that offered over 15 optional boards.[33] The delivery time given was 60 or 90 days, but many items were never produced and dropped from future price lists. Initially, Roberts decided to concentrate on production of the computers. Prompt delivery of optional boards did not occur until October 1975.

There were several design and component problems in the MITS 4K Dynamic RAM board. By July, new companies such as Processor Technology were selling 4K Static RAM boards with the promise of reliable operation.[34] Ed Roberts acknowledged the 4K Dynamic RAM board problems in the October 1975 Computer Notes. The price was reduced from $264 to $195 and existing purchasers got a $50 refund. MITS released its own 4K Static RAM board in January 1976.

Several other companies started making add-in boards and the first clone, the IMSAI 8080, was available in December 1975.[35]

Altair BASIC

Main article: Altair BASIC

Bill Gates was a student at Harvard University and Paul Allen worked for Honeywell in Boston when they saw the Altair computer on the cover of Popular Electronics. They had previously written software for the earlier Intel 8008 microprocessor and knew the Intel 8080 was powerful enough to support a BASIC interpreter. They sent a letter to MITS claiming to have a BASIC interpreter for the 8080 microprocessor. Roberts was interested, so Gates and Allen began work on the software. Both had experience with the Digital Equipment Corporation PDP-10 minicomputers that they would use. Allen modified the DEC Macro Assembler to produce code for the Intel 8080 and wrote a program to emulate the 8080 so they could test their BASIC without having an Altair computer. Using DEC's BASIC-PLUS language as a guide, Gates determined what features would work with the limited resources of the Altair computer. Gates then started writing the 8080 assembly-language code on yellow legal pads. In February Gates and Allen started using a PDP-10 at Harvard to write and debug BASIC. They also enlisted another Harvard student, Monte Davidoff, to write the floating-point math routines.[36]

Altair 8K BASIC on paper tape. Bill Gates gave Paul Allen a paper tape containing BASIC to take to MITS.

Paul Allen flew to Albuquerque, New Mexico, in March 1975 to test BASIC on a real Altair 8800 computer. Roberts picked him up at the airport in his pickup truck and drove to the nondescript storefront where MITS was located. Allen was not impressed. The Altair computer with 7 kB of memory that BASIC required was still being tested and would not be ready until the next day. Roberts had booked Allen in the most expensive hotel in Albuquerque and the room was $40 more than Allen brought with him. Roberts paid for the room and wondered who is this software guy who can not afford a room in a hotel.[37]

The next day the Altair with 7 kB had finally passed its memory test and Allen had their BASIC interpreter on a paper tape Bill Gates had created just before Allen left Boston. It took almost 15 minutes for the Teletype to load the program into the Altair then the Teletype printed "MEMORY SIZE?" Allen entered 7168 and the Teletype printed "READY". Both Allen and Roberts were stunned their software and hardware actually worked. They entered several small programs and they worked. The BASIC interpreter was not complete and crashed several times, but Roberts had a high level language for his computer. Roberts hired Allen as Vice President and Director of Software at MITS.[38][39] Bill Gates also worked at MITS; the October 1975 company newsletter gives his title as "Software Specialist".[40]

Bill Gates remained at Harvard, but continued working on BASIC. Students were allowed to use the DEC PDP-10, but officials were not pleased when they found that Gates was developing a commercial product. The school then implemented a policy that forced Gates to use a commercial time share service to work on BASIC.[41]

On July 22, 1975, MITS signed a contract for the Altair BASIC with Bill Gates and Paul Allen. They received $3000 at signing and a royalty for each copy of BASIC sold, with a cap of $180,000. MITS received an exclusive worldwide license to the program for 10 years. They also had exclusive rights to sublicense the program to other companies and agreed to use its "best efforts" to license, promote and commercialize the program. MITS would supply the computer time necessary for development on a PDP-10 owned by the Albuquerque school district.[42]

MITS realized that BASIC was a competitive advantage and bundled the software with computer hardware sales. Customers who purchased the computer, memory, and I/O boards from MITS could get BASIC for $75; the standalone price was $500. Many hobbyists purchased their hardware from a third-party and "borrowed" a copy of Altair BASIC. Roberts refused to sub-license BASIC to other companies; this led to arbitration in 1977 between MITS and the new "Micro-Soft". The arbitrator agreed with Microsoft and allowed them to license the 8080 BASIC to other companies. Roberts was disappointed with this ruling. Since both Allen and Gates had been employees of MITS and he paid for the computer time, Roberts felt it was his software.[43]

Sale to Pertec

In 1976, MITS had 230 employees and sales of $6 million.[44] Roberts was tiring of his management responsibilities and was looking for a larger partner. MITS had always used Pertec Computer Corporation disk drives[45] and on December 3, 1976, Pertec signed a letter of intent to acquire MITS for $6 million in stock.[46] The deal was completed in May 1977 and Roberts' share was $2–3 million.[6][47] The Altair products were merged into the Pertec line, and the MITS facility was used to produce the PCC-2000 small-business computer. The Albuquerque plant was closed in December 1980 and the production was moved to the Pertec plants in Irvine, California.[48]

Medical doctor

In late 1977 Roberts returned to rural Georgia and bought a large farm in Wheeler County where he had often visited his grandparents' home in his youth.[6][49] He had a non-compete agreement with Pertec covering hardware products, so he became a gentleman farmer and started a software company. His age could have thwarted his dream of becoming a medical doctor, but nearby Mercer University started a medical school in 1982. Roberts was in the first class and graduated with an M.D. in 1986. He did his residency in internal medicine and in 1988 established a practice in the small town of Cochran, Georgia.[6][50][51] In 2009, Dr. Roberts was elected to Alpha Omega Alpha, the medical honor society, based on his dual accomplishment of developer of the first personal computer and his devotion to rural medicine.

Personal life

Ed Roberts married Joan Clark (b. 1941) in 1962 and they had five sons, Melvin (b. 1963), Clark (b. 1964), John David (b. 1965), Edward (b. 1970), Martin (b. 1975) and a daughter Dawn (b. 1983). They were divorced in 1988.[1][6][52]

Roberts married Donna Mauldin in 1991 and they were still married when interviewed by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution in April 1997.[1] He was married to Rosa Cooper from 2000 until his death.[53]

Roberts died April 1, 2010 after a months-long bout with pneumonia, at the age of 68.[54][55] His sister, Cheryl R Roberts (b. November 13, 1947 – d. March 6, 2010), of nearby Dublin, Georgia died at age 62, a few weeks before his death.[56] During his last hospitalization in Macon, Georgia, hospital staffers were stunned to see an unannounced Bill Gates, who had come to pay last respects to his first employer. He was survived by his wife, all six of his children and his mother, Edna Wilcher Roberts. All live in Georgia.[57]

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Notes

  1. 1 2 3 4 Emerson, Bo (April 27, 1997). "Doctor of invention Computer pioneer keeping it personal as a small-town doc". The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. p. M 01. The article gives his date of birth as September 13, 1941.
  2. "Microsoft founders lead tributes to 'father of the PC'". BBC News. April 2, 2010. Archived from the original on June 24, 2012. Retrieved April 2, 2010.
  3. 1 2 Roberts, Ed (November 1971). "Electronic desk calculator you can build". Popular Electronics. Vol. 35 no. 5. pp. 27–32.
  4. 1 2 Lucas, Urith (April 20, 1973). "Albq calculator firm to expand plant, triple number of employees ]". The Albuquerque Tribune. p. C14. Summary: MITS to move to the Cal-Lin Building, 6328 Linn NE in May. Now at 5404 Coal SE. Employment is expected to rise from 62 to 180 or 200. Company will have 10,000 square feet (930 m2) on one floor. Calculator sales reached $100,000 in March.
  5. Zannos (2003), 15.
  6. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Miller, Samantha; Wescott, Gail Cameron (January 27, 1997). "The Road Not Chosen: He might have been Ed Roberts, billionaire; instead, he became a rural MD". People. pp 97-98
  7. Zannos (2003), 16–17.
  8. Zannos (2003), 18–19.
  9. Mims (1986), 24–27.
  10. Mims, Forrest M. (September 1969). "Transistorized Tracking Light for Night Launched Model Rockets". Model Rocketry. Cambridge, MA: Model Rocketry, Inc. 1 (11): 9–11.
  11. Carlin, Margie (January 30, 1970). "Want to Fly a Rocket? Albq Academy Is the Pad". Albuquerque Tribune. p. B10.
  12. Mims (1986), 29.
  13. Mims, Forrest; Henry E Roberts (November 1970). "Assemble an LED Communicator – The Opticom". Popular Electronics. Vol. 33 no. 5. Ziff Davis. pp. 45–50, 98–99.
  14. Mims (1986) 34–36.
  15. Zannos (2003), 19.
  16. "New Products: Do-it-yourself Electronic Calculator". Computer. IEEE. 3 (6): 38–41. November 1970. doi:10.1109/C-M.1970.216730. Electronic Arrays has developed the EAS100, a set of MOS LSI circuits for a 16 digit calculator with 8 digit display capability.
  17. US patent 3800129, Richard H. Umstattd, "MOS Desk Calculator", issued 1974-03-26 The Electronic Arrays, Inc. calculator chip set that was used in the MITS 816 calculator.
  18. Mims (1986) 24–27, 34–36.
  19. Cliff, W. Wilson (October 31, 1971). "Little Firm in City Making Big Name with Calculator". Albuquerque Journal. p. G-2. But hundreds of thousands of electronics enthusiasts the world over have read about MITS within the last 10 days and no less than 200 already bought the light-weight 16-digit electronic calculator…
  20. Young (1998), 152–153.
  21. "New Products". Computer. IEEE. 5 (6): 59–63. November 1972. doi:10.1109/C-M.1972.216999.
  22. Young (1998), 154–155.
  23. Young (1998), 155–158.
  24. Ceruzzi (2003), 227–228.
  25. Salsberg, Art (October 1984). "Will the Real 'Father Of Personal Computers' Please Stand Up ... H. Edward Roberts". Modern Electronics. 1 (1): 64–66. ISSN 0748-9889.
  26. H. Edward Roberts; William Yates (January 1975). "Altair 8800 minicomputer". Popular Electronics. Vol. 7 no. 1. Ziff Davis. pp. 33–38.
  27. Milford, Annette (April 1976). "Computer Power of the Future – The Hobbyists". Computer Notes. Albuquerque NM: MITS. 1 (11): 7. Archived from the original on March 23, 2012. Retrieved 2007-12-01. "Les Solomon entertained a curious audience with anecdotes about how it all began for MITS, The name for MITS's computer, for example, was inspired by his 12-year-old daughter. She said why don't you call it Altair – that's where the [Star Trek] Enterprise is going tonight."
  28. Salsberg, Arther (November 12, 1984). "Jaded Memory". InfoWorld. Vol. 6 no. 46. p. 7. ISSN 0199-6649.
  29. Mims, Forrest M. (November 1984). "The Altair story; early days at MITS". Creative Computing. Vol. 10 no. 11. Creative Computing. p. 17.
  30. Popular Electronics was published the month before the cover date. The January 1975 issue was published on November 29, 1974. Copyright registration record.
  31. Green, Wayne (October 1975). "From the Publisher .. Are they real?". BYTE. Vol. 1 no. 2. Green Publishing. pp. 61, 81, 87. In August 1975, Wayne Green visited several personal computer manufacturers. A photo caption in his trip report says; "Meanwhile, at MITS, over 5,000 Altair 8800's have been shipped. Here is a view of part of the production line."
  32. "Updated Price List". Computer Notes. Albuquerque NM: MITS. 1 (1): 6. April 1975. Archived from the original on March 23, 2012.Larger version.
  33. "Hardware". Homebrew Computer Club Newsletter. 1 (5): 2, 4. July 5, 1975.
  34. Littman, Jonathan (1987). Once Upon a Time in ComputerLand: The Amazing, Billion-Dollar Tale of Bill Millard. Los Angeles: Price Stern Sloan. p. 18. ISBN 0-89586-502-5. "Later that day, December 16 [1975], United Parcel Service picked up the first shipment of 50 IMSAI computer kits for delivery to customers."
  35. Manes (1994), 68–73.
  36. Manes (1994), 74–75.
  37. Manes (1994), 74–76.
  38. Young (1998), 164.
  39. "Contributors". Computer Notes. Albuquerque NM: MITS. 1 (5): 13. October 1975. Archived from the original on March 23, 2012.
  40. Wallace, James; Jim Erickson (1992). Hard Drive: Bill Gates and the Making of the Microsoft Empire. John Wiley & Sons. pp. 81–83. ISBN 0-471-56886-4."When Harvard officials found out that he (Gates) and Allen had been making extensive use of the university's PDP-10 to develop a commercial product, they were not pleased." The computer was funded by the Department of Defense and was under the control of Professor Thomas Cheatham. "Although DARPA was funding the PDP-10 at Harvard, there was no written policy regarding its use."
  41. Manes (1994), 82–83.
  42. Manes (1994), 109–114.
  43. McElheny, Victor K. (June 16, 1977). "Computer Show: Preview Of More Ingenious Models; Computer Show Confirms Trend In Widening Use of Technology". The New York Times. p. 79. J. David Callan, head of Pertec's Microsystems division, which includes the Altair line and Icom, of Canoga Park, Calif., maker of computer peripheral equipment for such small computers, said that Altair sales totaled about $6 million last year.
  44. Boonham, J. C. (1978). Small Systems Computer Sourcebook. pp. 68–69. ISBN 978-0-470-26295-5.
  45. Manes (1994), 101.
  46. Young (1998), 174.
  47. Milewski, Richard (December 8, 1980). "Last Vestige of Mits Closes". InfoWorld. Vol. 2 no. 22. p. 7. ISSN 0199-6649.
  48. Roberts' farm was about 1,000 acres (4.0 km2). Siliconnections (Mims (1986), page 48) states 900 acres (3.6 km2). The Atlanta Journal-Constitution (April 27, 1997) states 1,200 acres (4.9 km2).
  49. Zannos (2003), 39–42.
  50. Moreau, Dan (April 1989). "Change Agent". Kiplinger's Personal Finance. Vol. 43 no. 4. p. 128. ISSN 1528-9729.
  51. Zannos (2003), 44.
  52. Lohr, Steve (April 2, 2010). "H. Edward Roberts, PC Pioneer, Dies at 68". The New York Times.
  53. Kovac, Joe (April 3, 2010). "Forgotten legend: Cochran funeral set for builder of first PC". Macon Telegraph. Macon, GA.
  54. Allen, Paul (April 19, 2010). "H. Edward Roberts". Time. Retrieved April 11, 2010. Ed Roberts, who died of pneumonia April 1 at 68, has rightfully been described as an architect of the personal-computer revolution.
  55. Social Security Death Index
  56. . Brecher, Elinor J. (April 6, 2010). "Henry Edward Roberts, 68, inventor of the PC". Miami Herald. In addition to his mother, wife, and son David, Ed Roberts is survived by sons Martin, of Glenwood, Ga.; Edward, of Atlanta; Melvin and Clark, of Athens, Ga.; and daughter, Dawn Roberts, of Warner Robins, Ga. Roberts survived his only sibling, a sister, by weeks.

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